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Clothilde


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The Clan may be aware of the attempted robbery in the crypts a day or so ago.


If you dont, two 'Impossible ' (to Clothilde anyway) Hin crept up on a group of four dwarves  (including Bunus and Clothilde) and threatened them with death unless they handed over all their loot.  The outcome was inevitabel and bloody (on the part of the Hin at any rate).  Two bodies lay ableedin all over the Crypt floor.


So far so good.. all taken in good part and some friendly 'tells' between parties along the lines of 'well done' etc.  The problem was more to do with the aftermath of this encounter.  Clothilde walked out of the Anchor to find one of the antagonists sitting under a tree asleep - in plain view of everyone.  What to do?   Having denounced him to all and sundry with absolutely no interest shown.. and talking to another Dwarf who was a member of the victorious crypt party (who also showed no interest), she gave up and left the Hin to his own devices.  An attempt to talk to a DM about getting the Captain of the guard involved resulted in a 'you cant prove it' response - which I accept as fine on the DMs part.  It was Ikkis and he said he would have a word with the players as he considered it griefing  - this wasn't why I approached him and hope the 'talk' was convivial.


My real probelm is how to RP this.  Does a Dwarf just ignore a robber sitting in the middle of the town square (especially as he tried to rob the Clan)?  If I gather clan memebers around.. what can I do about it?  In reality they should either be dead, or we hauled them back and handed them over to the Guard to be incarcerated.  I guess this is why this sort of thing doesnt happen often.


:) Having written all this I have come to the conclusion I am going to just ignore it.  But it helped to talk about it.  If anybody else has comments - I'd like to hear them.


 



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As far as PvP goes, the respawning system in some ways makes all PvP non-ending. That means you gotta put a stop to it somewhere. If i'm looking at this from an OOC point of view, they tried to rob us -we killed them. Period. Done. That should be the end of it imo. The other scenario is neverending wars with respawning enemies, which can lead to simply attacking one another on sight and then it's rolling fast out of hand. Now if i were Willow Thornwhatever and Soi'lj, i would be lying very low for a wee bit of time after being killed and humiliated by a bunch of 'effortless' characters, otherwise we end up with the same situation you found yourself in, Clothilde; "I killed this robber good, and ops now he's sitting in the Rest grinning at me!" I say just ignore them as long as they don't make a move.


That was the OOC part. As for how a dwarf reacts, it would depend on the individual. But sure, dwarves are known not to forget a slight and take double revenge on their enemies. But in this case, OOC an IC mix. If their characters had tried to rob us, failed, but got away, Shingles would sure act if he saw them again. But IC:ly, we killed them already, and i would prefer if that would close the matter.


As a note: Am i imagining things or has the PvP gone up dramatically since we opened the clan?



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To handle deaths, there is a very good guideline. Because of the respawn ability, I normally treat death as either a mortal wound that I recoverd from (if a monster killed me), that I died and the monks of Chauntea found me (in monster deatH9 or (in PvP situations) that I totally forgot all about everything leading up to my death (so as to put an end to it). In your case, where you actually survived (well done clan ), I would considered it that I gave them a real beating and burry the axe (that is, justice, the dwarven way). I would also report this to the DMs (as you did, very good Clothilde) so that they have their eyes on the characters in the future. This to prevent real griefers and not players like Solji (who I normally thinks play rather good).



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The Chosens


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i would say it all depends on who you pked and such. if it was a "noob" rper then just politely let them know that what they are doing will get them killed. but if it is an experienced and well known rper (doubt they would have done that) then simply tell them over tells that doing this will result in a fight and probably something happening in town with the guards.

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they may try robe me anytime they want

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Clothilde


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Thanks Clan.  Debate over. I wil ignore them unless they pick it up again....

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Hi all,


I was just checking this board and came across this post. My character (Willow Thorngage.) did not attack any dwarves in a crypt. I do know that I have a brother that perhaps did it. But to make clear it wasn't willow thornwhatever..


And about robbing people... I don't think its bad rp to robb someone (there are good and bad people in the realms anyway) and I think it's much more fun for good players to have some evil characters doing bad stuff so that they can act good. What's a paladin for if there is no evil to stop. Sure you could go to vlaslik but he stills come back to :P.


I hope nobody of you is mad about the roleplaying tricks the Thorngage brothers do ,cause we like to spice up the lives of those good old goodiegoodie toeshoes :P


Anyways the clan has been informed that two little halflings robb ,and the halflings are informed that the dwarves have been informed. With this in mind the halflings will act with more caution. No hard feelings what soever. I'm here for my fun hope you do to.


See ya around and let the roleplay begin.


 


Silverglade.


 



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The Chosens


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So as i understand it both the Thornages and Doomnairs know that there was an attempted robery....a simple warning Silverglade, i would hope that you would not try this again, for there might be more severe repercussions from the Doomnairs next time

-- Edited by The Chosens at 22:26, 2004-11-09

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Thoren


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Anyone that robbs me lads, I will see hung!

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Clothilde


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As I said .. I was happy about the actual robbery and how it was RPed (though if two 'Impossibles' had really beaten us up it might have been different or course)  My problem was really only to do with how to RP the aftermath...   Hope it works out  (If the Hin had won I reckon I would be complaining about how we were griefed thinking about it - what then?)

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The Chosens


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well by Blarks post seems there are more little hin robbers about...and just let me be the first to say that they made a BIG mistake by trying to pick on dwarves!!



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Wouldn't worry too much about robbery or pickpocket.


http://forums.rper.org/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=9&topic_id=19225&mesg_id=19225&page=


Characters will be deleted who do so.



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FYI the character failing to rob us down the crypts was Vertash Thorngage, and after he was saved from being annihilated by Shingles by a server restart, he asked apologized OOC:ly for the attempted robbery a couple of times and asked 'the dwarves' to forget the incident, because he apparently had to permadie if he died in pvp again Anyway i told him it was sufficient for me that he was killed and humiliated once, but that i couldn't speak for the others involved.

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well he may try and robe me anytime he wants, you can run but you cant hide

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yea go ahead and try to rob me but as i said before...if you try and rob me you wont get a warning "just a hammer to the head" as Blark put it

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